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Refinancing Your Student Loans as a Resident

03.12.15 // Finance, Medicine

Last updated July 2020

 

If you’re a resident with a big load of student loans from the feds at a 6.8% interest rate (or worse), your choice has generally been IBR or forbearance. The mountain of debt compared with your relatively paltry resident salary has put conventional student loan refinancing—which requires a reasonable debt/income ratio—out of reach. If you have an average loan burden (say, $180k) or higher, your IBR payments also only cover around half of the monthly interest accrued (so despite your best efforts, your loans are still growing). If you forbear, they’re growing even faster.

So basically, your loans have been growing at a crappy interest rate, and you’ve been unable to bail to greener pastures.1If you’re doing IBR in order to qualify for PSLF, then that’s a separate issue. See below. Until now.

There are now two four three players who offer student loan refinancing specifically to residents. Laurel Road (formerly DRB) was the first. They were then joined by LinkCapital (now defunct). Later, Splash Financial and SoFi joined the pack. Then, Splash pulled the plug; and then, they came back.

This is how it works:

  • For Laurel Road, you apply for student loan refinancing whenever you want starting from when you match as an MS4 (they’ll respect the usual 6-month post-graduation grace period, don’t worry). Ditto SoFi.
  • For Laurel Road and SoFi, no set maximum loan amount.
  • All will use a multifactorial process to look at your application, including your FICO scores, your debt and total loan amount, and your medical specialty. They use your specialty to determine the median projected/future income for you and use that instead your current income to calculate your debt to income ratio (DTI).
  • If you meet the requirements, you get to trade your old loans for a new one. For Laurel Road, physician spouses can even consolidate their loans into one.
  • None have origination fees. 
  • For Laurel Road, while in training (residency + fellowship), your monthly payment is $100. SoFi also requires $100 payments but only for training lengths up to 4 years. Splash is $100 for 7 years.
  • After you finish training and begin making real money, you will enter standard repayment. Any interest accrued during the training period will capitalize at this point (but did not compound/capitalize during training).
  • In some ways, these offerings are like income-driven repayment plans in the sense that your payments are low in residency and then ramp up once you finish. It’s not like IDR in the sense that it stays $100 or $75 per month regardless of your fluctuating income as a resident, and the new private loan loses any chance of achieving federal loan forgiveness.
  • None have prepayment penalties. Prepayment can also directly go to your balance and not to uncapitalized interest. If you are already doing IDR, this means that you can put that extra $300 or $400 you’re already used to paying every month toward your loans anyway, only now this money will go further. For example: $500 a month for IDR means you spend $6000 a year on your loans. Depending on your loan amount and your new interest rate, this amount may be enough to completely stop the growth of your loans (instead of merely slowing down the rate of negative amortization).
  • Grace periods are usually honored, as well as a three-month grace period before entering full repayment after residency/fellowship ends, giving you a few cushion months at your new salary.
  • Accrued interest capitalization won’t capitalize again until after residency (which is similar to what happens for many physicians in IBR/PAYE, worse than REPAYE, but better than forbearance).
  • Loans are discharged in the event of death and permanent disability (like federal loans). With Splash, only some loans are forgiven (depending on the underlying funding source, so read that fine print!)
  • Laurel Road offers an economic hardship deferment (in three-month chunks) if things get tough. Other companies will generally grant you a temporary forbearance when needed as well.
  • If you don’t qualify for refinancing (e.g. low credit score), it’s possible to reapply with a cosigner (and still be a part of the resident program).
  • The rates you’ll get as a resident aren’t going to be as good as those of an attending. With most companies, if you want to get lower, then you should reapply when you’re an attending. A trainee applying in their final year with a signed employment contract can get an attending rate.

It seems like all student loan refinancing companies have referral programs to drum up business, whereby you get some cash if you send a friend their way. Laurel Road will give anyone who joins through this page $300 for signing up (the equivalent of three months free, nice). SoFi is offering $300. Splash is offering $300. If you’re interested in refinancing, just do the initial 2-min rate check application and see who gives you the lowest rate. If the offers don’t make sense, then don’t sweat it. Your credit won’t get pulled until you do the real application.

What I found clever about the original Laurel Road offering is that they not only stood to profit from the extra years of interest accumulation if a new borrower paid the minimum amount during residency, but that they’d found a way to get at physicians early and compete against the other companies on something other than who has the lowest offered rate on a given day. Frankly, I’m surprised SoFi and others took so long to join in (I talked with one of their directors about this back in 2016!).

Interest Capitalization

One thing that happens if you switch from federal income-driven repayment to private consolidation/refinancing is that your accrued interest will capitalize. This means that if you had loans of $180k with $40k of uncapitalized accrued interest, your new loan amount (that will now be gaining interest) is $220k after refinancing. That can be really bad, but all depends on the rates:

$180k at 6.8% APR accrues $12240 every year in interest.
$220k at 3.5% APR accrues $7835 the first year in interest.

So you’ll have to do the math with the rates you are offered versus the amount of unpaid interest you have sitting around to see how it works out. Online calculators (like this one) make it pretty straightforward. The interest capitalizes at end of your six-month grace period after finishing school or when you consolidate, so if you just recently graduated, this is irrelevant. If you’ve been forbearing, then your interest already has and continues to capitalize, so that downside also doesn’t apply.

Part of what made refinancing so desirable back in 2015 when I first wrote this post was that interest rates were at all-time lows. It was a great time to buy a house too, and it made the 6.8% federal student loan interest rate for graduate students particularly galling. Since then, federal rates dropped a bit and the IDR program added an unpaid interest subsidy to many borrowers through the REPAYE program that many residents can benefit from. In other words, refinancing as a resident was something that lots of residents could have benefitted from in 2015 when DRB was the only party in town. Now, the majority of residents will do better in REPAYE.

So should I try to refinance?

  • If you have private loans at high rates, this is a no-brainer.
  • If you have federal loans and have been forbearing, then this is also worth pricing out. $75-100 a month to slow down the relentless climb of accruing interest can save a lot of money in the long run, particularly if you have a lot of PLUS loans
  • If you have federal loans and are doing IBR/PAYE to be financially responsible but have no interest/faith in PSLF, then refinancing is also definitely worth considering. As there is no prepayment penalty, you are free to still make your old IBR-sized payments. Those payments will go a lot further at a lower interest rate. So if you know you want to do private practice, then there’s really no big reason to stick with IBR. If you’re in REPAYE, then feel free to apply for private refinance, but only pull the trigger if the rate you’re offered is lowered than your effective interest rate with the REPAYE unpaid interest subsidy.
  • Other than losing PSLF, the main downside to switching from IBR/PAYE/REPAYE is interest capitalization (as above). Because of interest capitalization, you’ll have to do some math based on what rate you’re offered, how much you owe, and how much you plan on paying monthly to figure out if refinancing is worth it for you. This matters more the longer you’ve been making income-driven payments that don’t cover the accruing interest; if you just graduated, then you don’t have to worry about this.
  • If you’re doing IDR temporarily but think you’ll need to start forbearing (having kids soon, etc), then it only makes sense to refinance if you can afford the small token payment.
  • If you are nearing the end of residency, keep in mind that depending on your loan amount and your projected salary, your interest may soon capitalize anyway, IBR or not (i.e. you may no longer have a “partial financial hardship”). You’ll also get a better deal with SoFi if you’re within 12 months of the end of your training and have a signed employment contract.

Other options?

You can refinance with CommonBond and get an attending rate + $300 cash back if you apply during your final year of training with a signed job contract.

Otherwise, for residents with average loan burdens, options are limited. Another player that is potentially viable is LendKey ($300 bonus). The maximum loan amount is currently $300k. Additionally, on an average resident salary of $55k, the maximum loan amount without a cosigner would be approximately $75k. To hit even their old maximum of $175k, you’d need an income of $85k. While there is no special resident program, they do offer interest-only payments, which if your loans are a small enough may be entirely reasonable. The interest-only payment on $100k at 5% is around $400/month, for example. Earnest ($300 referral bonus) tells me they are also willing to refinance residents despite their debt/income ratio, but you’d essentially have to have enough income to make full payments on a 20-year (the maximum) term, so it’s a no-go for big borrowers as well.

So for lower loan amounts, Laurel Road, SoFi, and Splash are potentially joined by LendKey and Earnest. But for an average resident with average debt, LendKey and Earnest’s current offerings probably won’t cut it.

So if you’re an attending, apply to all of them and see who gives you the best rate. Initial rate checks don’t affect your credit. When you sit down and really apply to several student loan companies to get your finalized rates within a short time frame, it’s considered a single hit on your credit report, so the more the merrier.

For further reading, here is my rundown of all of the medical student loan refinance options.

What about PSLF?

See this post. Keep in mind, PSLF can only take place after 10 years of monthly payments. If you have a smaller loan burden or a short residency, the amount you can theoretically have forgiven may be low (assuming the program continues; it’s new enough that no one has actually had their loans forgiven yet). PSLF is the best deal for those with long residencies/fellowships (low monthly payments for longer under IDR), with a lot of loans (private school = more forgiven), and low attending salaries (lower IDR payments = more forgiven).

In fact, the desire to do PSLF is the main real reason to not bother doing a private refinance rate check if you aren’t eligible for a good REPAYE rate subsidy. At least, the current PSLF is: recent budget proposals have included a proposed capping PSLF or canceling the program entirely, though all changes are designed to affect only new borrowers. So current residents should be grandfathered into PSLF without a cap and get solid loan forgiveness. Future medical students, however, could one day have the real benefits of this program essentially washed away. Now that giving “rich” doctors and lawyers big wads of cash is a legislative issue with bipartisan support, PSLF may end up being a short-lived panacea for physician debt.

If you’ve heard about getting your loans discharged after 20-25 years (IBR or PAYE), you should probably forget about it. Unless you quit medicine and never make a decent attending salary, all but those with the most egregious student loan amounts won’t get their loans forgiven this way (and even if you did, you wouldn’t save much money given all of those extra years of making payments and taxes due on the forgiven amount). If you make little enough (e.g. part-time academic primary care) to stretch out your loans for 20 years but couldn’t do PSLF, then you might have some amount forgiven, but then you would have spent a ton of extra money over the years on interest, and then forgiven amount is taxed (your marginal tax rate * a multi-hundred thousand dollar loan debt = a huge tax bomb). The best reason to keep your federal loans around at 6.8% or worse is for PSLF or because you can’t yet qualify for something better.2The information contained on this website does not constitute legal or tax advice, etc etc.

Alto’s Adventure

03.03.15 // Miscellany

This past week, as Dallas was intermittently “covered” in ice and snow, the hospital was intermittently quiet enough to download and play Alto’s Adventure a bit a lot on my iPhone, a new snowboarding-theme one-touch endless runner with a beautiful, relaxing visual and musical design. Come for the backflips and wingsuit, stay for watching the sunrise over a well-crafted winter mountainscape.

Though decidedly a more zen game, I’ve been reminded of playing its spiritual prequels in my medical past, like Tiny Wings, which helped make a neurology sub-I tolerable during fourth year, and when the frenetic Canabalt helped me ignore the basic sciences.

When USMLEWorld spying on you is the harbinger of our future despair

03.02.15 // Linked, Medicine

From Cory Doctorow’s How Laws Restricting Tech Actually Expose Us to Greater Harm:

Because while we’ve spent the past 70 years perfecting the art of building computers that can run every single program, we have no idea how to build a computer that can run every program except the one that infringes copyright or prints out guns or lets a software-based radio be used to confound air-traffic control signals or cranks up the air-conditioning even when the power company sends a peak-load message to it.

Why? Because for such a system to work, remote parties must have more privileges on it than the owner. And such a security model must hide its operation from the computer’s normal processes. When you ask your computer to do something reasonable, you expect it to say, “Yes, master” (or possibly “Are you sure?”), not “I CAN’T LET YOU DO THAT, DAVE.”

Which, though actually quite different, reminded me of one reason I always disliked USMLEWorld’s zealous efforts to prevent intellectual property theft. From the official Terms and Conditions:

The UWorld software is designed to access your computer system’s clipboard during use of the UWorld software. While a test is in progress, the UWorld software shall disable all clipboard functions of your computer system (including, but not limited to, copy-paste-print and save-to-disk functions). Furthermore, the UWorld software shall monitor all processes on your computer to determine if there exists any applications that could be used (intentionally or unintentionally) to copy contents. Simultaneous use of such applications (hereafter referred to as “dubious applications”) with the UWorld software constitutes a violation of this agreement.

That’s an amazing amount of system privelige we give to a small software package out of Irving, TX. In the future, how much control will we be willing to give up to companies and governements in order to use the products we want?

Oliver Sacks learns he has terminal cancer

02.25.15 // Linked, Miscellany

Oliver Sacks, in his moving NYTimes op-ed about learning that his ocular melanoma has metastasized to his liver:

I have to live in the richest, deepest, most productive way I can.

This will involve audacity, clarity and plain speaking; trying to straighten my accounts with the world. But there will be time, too, for some fun (and even some silliness, as well).

I feel a sudden clear focus and perspective. There is no time for anything inessential. I must focus on myself, my work and my friends. I shall no longer look at “NewsHour” every night.

Sacks’ version of “live like you were dying” is exactly what you’d hope/expect, showing his depth and ability to turn his careful consideration and clinical acumen internally, just as he did in his New Yorker essay about prosopagnosia (face blindness). Read the whole op-ed (and the essay too).

“Sudden clear focus and perspective” seem harder and harder to come by in the contemporary era, but I’m adding tacking it on late to the resolution list this year. I still remember first reading and being inspired by Sacks’ An Anthropologist on Mars and The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat in high school, probably the two books which most shaped my early interest in neuroscience and medicine. He’ll leave a tremendous legacy.

 

Preliminary Medicine vs Transitional Year Internships

02.05.15 // Medicine

I’ve noticed a trend when I talk to applicants on the trail: a significant number of faculty advisors are giving some questionable advice, such as recommending that their students applying to advanced specialties (e.g. derm, ophtho, rads) only apply to preliminary medicine programs because transitional year (TY) programs are too competitive. That, combined with a lot of mystery about internship programs and the fact that most TYs are not at recognizable university-based hospitals, means that applicants are at a disadvantage when it comes to making an informed decision about where to fulfill their internship requirement. I talk with applicants at dinners and lunches who already regret treating their internships like an afterthought and wish they had put more time into researching their options. I’ll address some myths below: (more…)

What I read in 2014

01.14.15 // Reading

2014 wasn’t a particularly big year for my library, but it is the first year I kept track of all of the books I read for pleasure, reproduced here in the order I consumed them:

  1. Steelheart by Brandon Sanderson (Reckoners #1)
  2. Divergent by Veronica Roth (Divergent #1)
  3. The Calling by Robert Swartwood
  4. Insurgent by Veronica Roth (Divergent #2)
  5. Allegient by Veronica (Divergent #3, finished the same day)
  6. Steps by Jerzy Kosinski (National book award-winner…in 1969)
  7. Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell
  8. Canticle by Ken Scholes (Psalms of Isaak #2)
  9. Gilead by Marilynne Robinson (a completely epistolary novel, rare form)
  10. Antiphon by Ken Scholes (Psalms of Isaak #3)
  11. The White Coat Investor by James Dahle MD (Basic financial literacy for physicians)
  12. Legion by Robert Swartwood
  13. The Dishonored Dead by Robert Swartwood (a highly unusual Zombie thriller)
  14. The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss (The Kingkiller Chronicle: Day 1)
  15. Requiem by Ken Scholes (Psalms of Isaak #4)
  16. The Wise Man’s Fear by Patrick Rothfuss (The Kingkiller Chronicle: Day 2)
  17. A Dance with Dragons (A Song of Fire and Ice #5)
  18. Maze Runner by James Dashner (Maze Runner #1)
  19. Cod by Mark Kurlansky (the spiritual prequel to Salt; that’s right, history through fish!)
  20. The Scorch Trials by James Dashner (Maze Runner #2)
  21. The Death Cure by James Dashner (Maze Runner #3)
  22. The Kill Order by James Dashner (Maze Runner Prequel)
  23. The Slow Regard of Silent Things by Patrick Rothfuss (Kingkiller side-novella)
  24. Light Boxes by Shane Jones
  25. Stiff by Mary Roach (cadavers do more than just get dissected, though that happens too)

Binge-reading young adult mega-hits over the course of a weekend off seemed to predominate interspersed with lengthy epic fantasy. For the record, the Maze Runner series isn’t as strong as either Hunger Games or Divergent. And truthfully, the weak third book in each of those trilogies almost ruins those series as well. Still can’t wait for Rothfuss to finish the Kingkiller trilogy; I almost wish I hadn’t already read the first entry so that I wouldn’t need to wait for the final/third book to come out!

Should your radiologist tell you the results of your scan?

11.27.14 // Linked, Medicine, Radiology

Probably not. But some interesting lines from Gina Kolata’s article in the NYTimes:

Dr. Christopher Beaulieu, chief of musculoskeletal imaging at Stanford:

At that point the radiologist may be capable of transmitting the information but the obvious next question for the patient is, ‘What do I do now?’ which, as nontreating physicians, radiologists are not trained to answer.”

This issue here is not that radiologists aren’t “trained” in what happens next (in many cases, of course they are!)—it’s that radiologists don’t actually do what happens next. If you aren’t going to provide treatment, you probably don’t need to be offering patients their options, particularly if you aren’t privy to their history.

For now — with one big exception — how quickly a patient gets the results of a scan, including M.R.I.s, PETs, CTs or ultrasounds, can be idiosyncratic and depend on the particular doctor and the particular patient.

Yet patients want to hear from radiologists, the groups say. One admittedly unscientific indicator was patients’ comments to the American College of Radiology on Twitter. They said they did not want to wait for results and could not understand why a radiologist would tell a doctor their results but not them, said Dr. Geraldine McGinty, chairwoman of the group’s commission on economics.

Realistically, patients want their results quickly and probably don’t care who tells them. The main issue here is patient scheduling. It’s not fair to patients to have an MRI one day and then have an appointment with the ordering provider two weeks later. Many physician schedules are fully booked with routine follow-ups, leaving no room for add-ons when unexpected scan results come up. In some thoughtfully scheduled clinics, patients have a scan in the morning and are seen that afternoon. That’s ideal.

If a patient then still wanted to speak to a radiologist (leaving aside the issue of the non-reimbursable time spent), I think both the radiologists and the referring clinicians would be much happier having that happen in a context in which the definitive management discussion would happen immediately afterward and not in some yet-to-be-determined future appointment. If the patient finds out before the referring provider, then the system breaks down. And learning you have cancer only to be told you won’t be seen by the oncologist until three weeks later is also not therapeutic. We need to be more thoughtful in how patients are scheduled for follow-up—that’s the crux.

“The chance of your actually seeing a radiologist is almost zero,” said Steve Burrin, a physicist and retired vice president of The Aerospace Corporation. Mr. Burrin, 70, who has lung cancer and lives in Los Angeles, has so many scans — CT, M.R.I., PET — that he decided to take matters into his own hands. Now, he immediately asks for a copy of his scan and tries to understand it himself.

I do though think the current state of patient accessible information is problematic. More and more patients have access to their raw reports, which are written for a physician reader.3In many cases, the body of the report is actually geared for other radiologists and specialists and is confusing to most other physicians (which isn’t necessarily a good thing either) The information, terminology, and certain turns of phrase can be bewildering and frankly misleading to patients. If a patient report states there several “indeterminate renal hypodense lesions” which are “too small to characterize,” that sounds super mysterious. But they’re really just (essentially always) tiny cysts of no clinical consequence.

If the future is centered on more transparency and patient empowerment, it would probably be better if a patient-centered report was incorporated into the medical record with the salient points written in accessible language. This is similar to the approach used by WebMD and Medscape, which are owned by the same company, where there are pages on the same topic with one set of data shown to patients and another set to physicians.

In which Amazon realizes that I’m not a student anymore

11.23.14 // Miscellany

It couldn’t last forever, and so today is the end of a personal era: Amazon figured out that I’m not a student anymore. Which is too bad, because now I’ll have to pay full price for Amazon Prime. I spent the last year of medical school (and two bonus years to hit three of the maximum total of four) thoroughly enjoying/using the “Amazon Student” service, which is Amazon Prime for half the cost, including their (nowhere near as good as Netflix) bundled video streaming service, free Kindle books, and tons of two day shipping. I first signed up for the six month free trial when I needed some holiday gifts quickly, and I haven’t cancelled since.

Upon receiving the email notification that my student membership was expiring and that I was going to be automatically “upgraded” to Prime, I immediately checked to see if there was a way to use an .edu address or student ID to continue being a student. My choices to confirm my “student” status were:

  • A transcript or class list for the current term (must include the date/term)
  • A copy or picture of your student ID (must include an expiration date or term)
  • A tuition bill for the current term (must include the date/term)
  • An official acceptance letter for the upcoming term (must include the matriculation date)

Er, so yeah. They thought this all out. None of that is going to happen.

Amazon may have some questionable/bizarre hardware efforts, but on the retail side, they figured out long ago that if they get you to sign up for prime, you get hooked/spoiled by unlimited two day shipping and then buy basically everything through Amazon.

Residency Consultants

11.14.14 // Medicine

I get emails all the time asking for residency application advice. A lot of these come from IMGs, which isn’t surprising: applying to residency in the US from the outside is stiffly competitive, and the support/advice from home isn’t always sufficient. Others are those with competitive dreams or particular needs for residency that make fourth year that much more stressful. To profitably fill that void are the “residency consultants” and their ilk, like the folks who wrote The Successful Match who would also love for you to be their client on not one but two (ugly) consulting websites. A lot of these guys are former associate program directors in fields like internal medicine who applied to residency themselves in a different era. In many cases, the nitty-gritty details and current application climate are probably better known by recently matched fourth years and residents in your specialty of choice, not to mention that being involved in interviewing and selecting candidates in one field at one institution doesn’t necessarily make you an expert in the whole process. Great consultants probably exist, but the credentials they spout are a red herring.

I don’t think US allopathic students who are thoughtful and reasonably competitive for their respective fields generally have a significant need for a comprehensive application review. Depending on how supportive and useful your student affairs department and faculty advisors are, many US MDs who are reaching a bit (but flexible) are also likely doing just fine on their own for the most part. But for others, particularly IMGs, a service and all-around helping hand to go over every nook and cranny of your application, help you fix your mistakes and take the right angles, polish your personal statement, and prepare you for interviews is obviously of value. Given how much you have to pour into ERAS, traveling costs, etc–shelling out for a residency consultant may be too much insult to injury, even for those students who are among those who would benefit the most. I’m generally suspicious of a lot of “advice” (and you often get what you pay for), but there’s no doubt that the perspective, experienced editorial services, and advice you get from qualified people who don’t know/like/love you is going to better approximate the things that will help you when the same sorts of strangers review your application or interview on the big day.

Still, I would make sure to exhaust the diverse community of peers and institutional support before hiring a stranger. And I’m sorry, but I don’t have the bandwidth to help one-on-one.

Ebola Reading

10.17.14 // Reading

The current Ebola scare and the growing story of its mismanagement made me remember two excellent books:

  1. The Hot Zone, the nonfiction thriller about Ebola that I found highly disturbing in middle school. For an even scarier read, try its spiritual sequel, The Demon in the Freezer (in which Preston details how much bioweapons grade Smallpox the former Soviet Union may have misplaced). I don’t know if Preston invented the nonfiction biomedical pageturner, but he was extremely good at it.
  2. The Stand. Stephen King’s magnum opus was re-released uncut and unedited (1200 pages!) in 2012. Viral apocalypse literature at its finest. It’s no spoiler to say that the government does neither a great nor honest job when faced with a deadly virus.

SPEAKING OF: Richard Preston reprises his old role to breakdown the current Ebola outbreak in the New Yorker.

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